Emporia Vue Home Assistant

[DigitalGord]

I think there is a large community of users who use Home Assistant and want a lot of what your Vue offers, but it doesn’t link into Home Assistant easily. Your competitor Sense does; it’d be great to add some support.

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sense/

Other energy tools integrated: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#energy

 

• This topic was modified 1 year ago by DigitalGord.

[emporiacs]

Hi, thank you for the feedback.

Emporia app does not integrate with Home Assistant yet but we’re working on that for a future firmware update.

[Neon2k2]

You may want to check this out.

https://github.com/magico13/ha-emporia-vue

[rosshenning]

Unfortunately, even if Emporia eventually provides an integration to HA…it does no good when the cloud service is down (like it is as I write this…more than 12 hours down so far).  Emporia has decided to NOT allow a local API feed of MY data.  They want to collect it for themselves, and despite the fact that they could even allow a local API that works in parallel with their cloud API, they refuse.  It makes no sense.  It also makes for 1.) Not realtime data in HA, 2.) No data in HA when the Emporia servers are down.  This makes it extremely difficult for anyone who buys the Emporia products to monitor their home solar plant.

I now fully regret my decision to invest in three Emporia Vue energy monitors and the Emporia EV charger.  I’m going to have to either flash the firmware in my monitor units and hope all of that works, or buy someone else’s product.  I will no longer recommend their products to anyone, as these types of business decisions should be punished, not rewarded.

If you are considering Emporia for energy monitoring and would have a problem not being able to access your data for any extended period of time, need realtime data, want to save your historical data for an extended period of time then RUN don’t walk away from Emporia.  Before you do, take a moment to write them an let them know why you’re buying someone else’s product.

[bertramt]

I really hope they add local access.  Honestly almost every reason I want my emporia vue has been ruined by it’s having to poll data from the cloud.  It’s unreliable to the point where I can’t build the integrations off the power data that I wanted it for in the first place.  I realize some of the problem is my Starlink internet connection but doesn’t change the fact that the lack of local access is what ruins this product for me.

I find it sad that Emporia can’t see the value in local data and would rather anger the small percentage of vocal customers. Sure some people may block it from uploading to the cloud if they had local access but I’d bet that the net effect of local access is more more sales and more data.

 

[danf]

I agree. I wouldn’t have purchased the EVSE if I knew it required cloud connection to even configure it. I understand the company wants to use our date. I don’t even have a problem with this. But allow us to also get the information locally. If Emporia were to cease operation (or if they wanted to suddenly charge us a fee to use their products) I would be left in the cold.

[emporiacs]

Thank you for this feedback.

The Emporia EV Charger is set from the factory to charge at 40 Amps.

To raise or lower the charge rate to match your breaker size and to take advantage of the numerous other features available from Emporia will require the Emporia App, yes. We believe these features provide extensive value, in terms of energy management, to our customers to control, monitor, automate, and save. Our ability to do this effectively is tied to having this information within our cloud.

[oliver]

You can already install esphome with Vue support which integrates nicely in home-assistant. You might have to do some soldering and reflash the esp, or just swap out the ESP all together. https://github.com/emporia-vue-local 😉

[schriss]

It would be nice if they simply implemented MQTT for us to be able to send OUR data into our local setups, while everything else including the cloud, their ecosystem etc. would continue to work as it is now. Community would take care of the rest, pretty dashboards, power flow cards, add-ons, etc.
The fear is probably that everyone would stop using the cloud and other up-sell connected products, but I think that’s nonsense. Those who would, would either flash custom firmware or buy/build something else anyway.
Example: I can DIY so I will make it work the way I need one way or another, but my brother is asking for out-of-the-box, plug-and-play solution and I will recommend Emporia to him unless he tells me he has a smart tariff, in which case I will have to look for something else for him as this has been asked for for years and never implemented.

[parkenshaw]

Have any of you found a replacement besides sense? I’m looking to jump from Emporia due to this. I already came from sense, but wanted more details for each breaker. I’m in a small condo so not looking into any of the full breaker box replacements. Anyone have a strong alt?

[flyoffacliff]

Yes there are a few others similar to the Vue. They are a little bit more expensive.

Probably would be frowned upon for me to post links to a competitor’s product here. But if you search the home assistant and home automation subreddits there’s a few good posts there about it.

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