Notifications feature has HUGE impact!

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    • #6349 Report Abuse

      The new notification feature has a huge impact on detecting bad motors, condensers for the motor, compressors…I set a rotor lock amp RLA for 1 sec just above the highest peak at startup, some fine tuning may be required because the Vue may not always catch the inrush start current every time at 1 sec interval, so if you set it too low you’ll get falses, so just raise it slightly or just above highest peak. Then I set one for the running amps over say 10 secs. This alone can detect a motor going bad from tight bearings, bad winding, bad capacitor in early stages. For example if my evap coil is wet it pulls 530 watts, if its dry it pulls 550. Or when my fridge is in the defrost mode it pulls 600 watts initially for several mins vs 150 watts when normal running and so on. I now get notifications for when defrost is on, or when something is wrong with HVAC….This feature is great if customized. I am awaiting my Gen2 2+16 and it looks like it will be absolutely fantastic via the specs. Can’t wait to review it. Thank you Anthony Davis

    • #6359 Report Abuse
      compu85
      Member

      To add to this, if the alert could be time based, eg. if over 2kw from 9am to 10pm but no alert at other times.

      This would be great for those of us on time of use schedules, and could easily pay for the cost of the system in power overages!

    • #6360 Report Abuse

      Good point, it always gets better (except for removing data below 35 watts) waiting for Gen2, my guess is it will be fantastic.

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      Marty @Emporia
      Emporia Staff

      thanks for your recommendations and feedback!  We are listening and working as fast and hard as we can to continue to improve the user experience!

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      toddbecker
      Member

      This feature has huge potential, however I don’t seem to understand how to set the rules. I am trying to create alerts if a pump circuit is running excessively (too long or too much draw). Here are views of normal use in minutes and seconds.

       

      • This reply was modified 3 days, 13 hours ago by toddbecker. Reason: Picture problems v1
    • #6412 Report Abuse

      To set notification for past runtime just choose a low running wattage below normal run watts could be 5,10,20watts for a period of time say 1hr, then you will get notified.  This is easy compared to a bad motor from too high startup watts which would be set to just above start watts for say2 secs.  Another could be for too high running watts, set just above normal running watts for say 5 secs, some tweaking for falses may be required.  My setting have been working well with several motors, compressors.

       

    • #6413 Report Abuse

      <p style=”text-align: center;”>To set notification for past runtime just choose a low running wattage below normal run watts could be 5,10,20watts for a period of time say 1hr, then you will get notified.  This is easy compared to a bad motor from too high startup watts which would be set to just above start watts for say2 secs.  Another could be for too high running watts, set just above normal running watts for say 5 secs, some tweaking for falses may be required.  My setting have been working well with several motors, compressors.</p>
       

    • #6414 Report Abuse

      Send me 1sec data with motor starting up several times and running for several minutes, I can the give you setting for notifications, the 1 min data wont work for that.

    • #6415 Report Abuse

      Remember sec data only goes back 3 hrs. (I dont like) so several captures may be necessary. The sec data will show start watts, for RLA setting , then a running watts setting and 3rd a running too long past time setting.  Without knowing the sequence of operation of your septic this is a place to start, with tweaking later.

       

       

    • #6420 Report Abuse
      toddbecker
      Member

      Posts with pictures really seem to mess things up. Will try one at a time.

      The pump in these shots is new. The previous pump failed, I only knew because it tripped a GFCI that it passed through. There was a backup pump, but it apparently had a bad switch and would never shut off. These are some of the things I would like to identify with alerts, so I can proactively investigate abnormal behavior.

      Screenshot #1

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      toddbecker
      Member

      Screenshot #2

    • #6422 Report Abuse
      toddbecker
      Member

      Different pump better example, screenshot #1

    • #6423 Report Abuse

      Ok set running watts  if exceeds 2.0 kw for 10 secs, set another for if exceeds 2.9kw for 3 secs, then this is up to you,set if exceeds 1.0kws for the minutes not to exceed like 5 mins, this last one will notify if pump not shutting off because it seems like it stays on about 1-2 mins so if on longer then say 5 mins it will tell you.  If you get false notifications just raise kws by .1 up at a time.  These 3 will tell you a host of early problems, once set propdr you shouldnt get any notifications.  Tweaking will be necessary depending on water depth and other factors.  Just call me 7274693401 if need to talk in detail.  Goodluck, Anthony

    • #6426 Report Abuse

      <p style=”text-align: center;”>The previous post was for sell pump only, for the septic its exceeds 1.5kw for 3secs, and exceeds 1.2 kw for 10secs, and finally exceeds .5kw for 5mins or however many mins that would reveal pump is stuck on.  You can call me on Weds after 10am est.  Goodluck, Anthony</p>

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