[Mark]

I wouldn’t count on any enhancements to the technical aspects of the monitoring software interface such as voltage anytime soon.  It appears the company is dedicating its resources to emerging technologies such as electric car charging and home battery systems.  I love the dedicated branch monitoring, but if Sense releases a product that is capable of having more than two dedicated circuit monitoring to go along with their AI learning, they will cover the one market advantage the Vue 2 has on them.  After using both Sense and Emporia side by side for over 18 months, I love the dedicated monitoring much more than the novelty AI of Sense; however, Sense has voltage monitoring, power quality monitoring, stalled motor detection and a much, higher sampling rate and a much more mature software interface.

[Mark]

They already took care of it.  They responded pretty quick too.  Neighborhood is only 11 years old and everything is underground.

[Mark]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>All I was informed of was the split phases were monitored by the power company as being more than 5%, or 6v, apart multiple times.  Since I assume it was based on 120v as baseline, it would be RMS.  I am not aware of what measure of time the power company used.</p>
On the Sense voltage plots, one leg was a perfect line of 120, the other was all all over the place.  It wasn’t a full swing of 124 to 111v quickly, it would hover at 116, then the next hour back to 121 ect.

[Mark]

Voltage monitoring is a huge need.  I’m running a Sense at the same time and the Sense helped me identify an issue with the transformer and soon after the power company confirmed and fixed the issue.  I had one leg rock solid 120v at all times and the other bouncing from 124v to 111v.  Emporia’s advantage is the dedicated branch sensors, but Sense’s software and user experience is still more mature.  Hopefully the Emporia software adds features and matures before Sense realizes they too need a device with multiple dedicated branch monitoring.

[Mark]

You’ll want mono with only two contacts on the male side.

[Mark]

If you’re still experiencing this issue, I had the same issue when I changed my wifi router passkey and had to change it on the Vue2.  I literally just got so fed up that I kept hitting the the try again button about five time consecutively as fast as they appeared and it finally submitted and connected.  My assumption is the timeout threshold is set too short for some routers handshakes to be completed.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Mark.

[Mark]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>I am running a Sense and the vue2 at the same time right now.  I’ve had the Sense installed for just over two months.  The Sense software does appear to be more mature than the Vue’s, but the learning is frustrating and I’d say 60% satisfying.  It can pickup most induction motors and large load resistive heat within first two months.  They’re not always accurate though.  I have a 5500w electric hot water heater and when that is running and my furnace kicks on, it has a a hard time leveling off the blower motor load at running wattage from start up wattage.  Also certain items like my washing machine and dishwasher have not yet been learned yet.  So far no electronics like tvs, pc or game console have been identified.  There are definitely pieces of both systems I would love to marry into one product.   I do have the “solar addon”, and use those two sensors as dedicated branch line sensors instead.  If Sense had more dedicated branch line sensors or when they implement their “on the road map” ability to assist device learning with smart plugs, it would be a more attractive product.  Right now I’m still evaluating the two.  Emporia could eclipse them with more mature software as the individual device learning feature is more novelty than practical in my opinion… But that could improve with product maturity as well.  Time will tell.</p>

[Mark]

I’m from Buffalo NY and have my Computer Engineering degree.  I purchased the Vue2 because anything electrical I have a need to know everything about.

I am also running a Sense Home Monitor in parallel and I will be interested to see the two devices perform side by side with their different approaches.

[Mark]

I second this request.  I want to monitor a freezer with the smart plug and it is way too easy to accidentally turn the plug off when navigating the main screen.  It doesn’t really matter what is plugged in, it is way too vulnerable to accidentally turning on or off unintentionally.

I thought for the freezer to set a schedule to turn the plug back on every hour if it were accidentally turned off, but that isn’t what I want.  Right now my smart plugs sit in the box as I contemplate if they’re worth the risk if inadvertently turning off.

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